RD Clan
Ducks Area => Become a Duck => Denied => Topic started by: Matt on December 28, 2015, 11:17:04 am
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Ingame name: Mattski
Old nicknames used: matthewmola, [NXS]matthewmola, [RD]Matt, [RD]Mr_Bean, [RD]Mattyszewski, [RD]Mattski
Real name: Matthew Mola
Age: 19
Country: The United States of America
Contact (Facebook, Hotmail, etc): https://www.facebook.com/matthewmola
Post a Screenshots of your ingame stats
(http://i.imgur.com/9AUJKu3.png)
How long have you played SAMP: Since June 24, 2011. (4 1/2 years)
How long have you played PTP: Since June 24, 2011. (4 1/2 years)
Have you ever been part of another clan, if you left, why?: [RD], didn't leave, was illegally removed.
Why you would like to join [RD]: I was illegally removed for something I shouldn't have done. It was never my intention to leave this clan. I'll do whatever I need to do to regain what I had earlier.
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Have you ever been part of another clan, if you left, why?: [RD], didn't leave, was illegally removed.[/b]
No, sorry.
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i'll vote YES , as for your vote Ice . eh im not so sure . its your vote anyways
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Have you ever been part of another clan, if you left, why?: [RD], didn't leave, was illegally removed.[/b]
No, sorry.
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Have you ever been part of another clan, if you left, why?: [RD], didn't leave, was illegally removed.[/b]
No, sorry.
I will classify it that way. I was gonna argue about it but I decided not to. You know what you need to apologize for and I'll leave it like that.
When I wrote the appeal, I was thinking of whether I should mention it or not. Staying silent is something I was not taught and I decided to use my rights and speak out over how I continue to view this situation.
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So,
I'll give him a YES
He is always good towards me. Thanks
He knows what he did. and he's applying here because majority is in favour of him which means many of us wants him back.
The positions depends on seniors, good luck!
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Matt, in case, will it be ok if higher ducks decide you to join as 'Baby duck' or 'Duck'?
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Well matt looks like you are starting over discussion over your kick .
First off if you say it was "Illegal" - this community reserves the right to remove any member who is a threat - Bans someone "Illegally" without a single reason & says racist stuff to cover it.
You asked for a kick in the first place -(http://i.imgur.com/W4Sbzgc.png?1) *
Well you could have said a sorry way before and unbanned kathy then , but you never listened & then went on to flame the leader of this clan.
I was looking up to say yes for you , but donno right now its on HOLD as i don't really see much improvement in attitude etc.
You made a mistake & were kicked for the same{nothing Illegal} .. that way even epps's mistake was much lesser than you here but that guy really apologized O:-)
Will wait n see ,
*blurred out the offensive part as i don't wanna bring that thing over again ,lets move on.
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Have you ever been part of another clan, if you left, why?: [RD], didn't leave, was illegally removed.[/b]
No, sorry.
I will classify it that way. I was gonna argue about it but I decided not to. You know what you need to apologize for and I'll leave it like that.
When I wrote the appeal, I was thinking of whether I should mention it or not. Staying silent is something I was not taught and I decided to use my rights and speak out over how I continue to view this situation.
The thing is you still don't take responsibility for your actions nor you want to face reality. Blaming it on someone/something else, in this case on someone who broke the law, like wtf?
Realize that you made a mistake and got kicked for it.
You wanna sue us brah? Yeezus...
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I was fully willing to give you another chance and say yes as soon as you applied but after reading your application, No.
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Matt, in case, will it be ok if higher ducks decide you to join as 'Baby duck' or 'Duck'?
yea abuse me all you want, make me your puppet.
First off if you say it was "Illegal" - this community reserves the right to remove any member who is a threat - Bans someone "Illegally" without a single reason & says racist stuff to cover it.
It was, you said it yourself. A leader does not have the right to kick another leader. Second I was not racist. Third I think I had a reason to ban her but i shouldnt have and so that's what i apologized for that months back.
You asked for a kick in the first place -(http://i.imgur.com/W4Sbzgc.png?1) *
Well you could have said a sorry way before and unbanned kathy then , but you never listened & then went on to flame the leader of this clan.
I could have apologized but I didn't because I felt like no one cared about my opinions. Well then this happened, and we can't change it.
You made a mistake & were kicked for the same{nothing Illegal} .. that way even epps's mistake was much lesser than you here but that guy really apologized O:-)
I think I do know I made a mistake. It's hard not to stay mad when people bring it up again and again. If I acted like i wasn't mad, I would still never feel the same without clearing it up.
*blurred out the offensive part as i don't wanna bring that thing over again ,lets move on.
but you did and others will continue to
The thing is you still don't take responsibility for your actions nor you want to face reality. Blaming it on someone/something else, in this case on someone who broke the law, like wtf?
Realize that you made a mistake and got kicked for it
I am taking responsibility for my actions and facing reality with replies from people like you. I know what I said and I did. I'm not blaming anyone for anything in this. I only dont get how you have this extra power to kick a fellow leader but hey, you gained some respect for doing this. You and I have some unsolved business but it was way before this so I'll leave it at that. But hey, you haven't given a crap about me since early 2015 and since this benefits you pretty well, why should I care about your opinion anymore
I was fully willing to give you another chance and say yes as soon as you applied but after reading your application, No.
I doubt it you actually would though
Look I just want another chance, it's hard enough already that this all happened. It was hard enough writing this appeal. I admitted my faults back months ago and since then I haven't mentioned any of it to most people on this community because its none of their business. I don't know what else I can do on my side to make me look better but I'd like to ask for help since I'm a loser as you probably call me privately
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Matt, in case, will it be ok if higher ducks decide you to join as 'Baby duck' or 'Duck'?
yea abuse me all you want, make me your puppet.
Matt , Style was just asking your opinion & you act this way , well the way you made the appeal is not in a good taste & make an appeal only after you get over the past >.<
Same like Epps even i wanted to say "yes" on your appeal , but after you posted all that crap over again im not sure ..
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Matt , Style was just asking your opinion & you act this way , well the way you made the appeal is not in a good taste & make an appeal only after you get over the past >.<
Same like Epps even i wanted to say "yes" on your appeal , but after you posted all that crap over again im not sure ..
Like I said, I'm still kind of upset but if we can work this out, I'm sure that'll go away.
I guess I reacted wrong to style, but reading the question upset me.
I was planning to make this appeal worse then what it was so I can tell you this is the good version of it.
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Matt, you're still trying to prove us wrong, tired still arguing, your ego is still in the way. We "illegally" removed you, we give you another shot and we get this, okay mate.
No.
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i know i shouldn't post this at all .but hey . here i am . i think that we should give matt another chance . just 1 chance . his appeal isn't going to the accepted theme park at the moment . but thats just my opinion . thanks for reading this @ all ducks
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Just 1 chance? Had that already....
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Matt, you're still trying to prove us wrong, tired still arguing, your ego is still in the way. We "illegally" removed you, we give you another shot and we get this, okay mate.
No.
I'm not even trying to argue, my ego isn't in the way either. I don't why we can't act like normal human beings, have a conversation where we all agree not to argue, and we can resolve this. I could take shots at you right now, I chose not to.
Just 1 chance? Had that already....
What 1 chance, this is my first since I was kicked from the clan
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Well Matt if you are not sure , ask anyone- i was the one who made topic in ducks area saying i feel Matt is ready to be back now & here you come up with those "Illegal" stuff .
if you had behaved like "normal" then myself n most of them would have said yes already.
This application has no future now that you are still stuck in that "Illegal" era .
Be a good human being :o , try to move on ahead instead of blaming the past for everything.
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Well Matt if you are not sure , ask anyone- i was the one who made topic in ducks area saying i feel Matt is ready to be back now & here you come up with those "Illegal" stuff .
if you had behaved like "normal" then myself n most of them would have said yes already.
This application has no future now that you are still stuck in that "Illegal" era .
Be a good human being :o , try to move on ahead instead of blaming the past for everything.
Well i was mad. Okay IceBreaker kicked me, using power he wasn't really justified to use, but used it on me for disrespecting him.
I am moving on, I want to him to move on with me. In order for that to happen, I want an apology over the crap he did before I was kicked.
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Matt, you have to forget about 'ilegal' stuff, Ice's decision/act was approved by most of ducks (later).
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Matt, you have to forget about 'ilegal' stuff, Ice's decision/act was approved by most of ducks (later).
Indeed , if it was not appropriate even ice would be punished - but his action was well justified after your fancy comment.
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Matt, you have to forget about 'ilegal' stuff, Ice's decision/act was approved by most of ducks (later).
Indeed , if it was not appropriate even ice would be punished - but his action was well justified after your fancy comment.
okay, I agree. I wasn't aware it was approved, I thought it was a self act. That is my mistake that I said that then, I apologize. But that stilll doesnt fix anything between us.
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Jabire , okay , one last chance for matt , matt . can you please put all of these stuff aside ? i know its hard for you . i have been in your position numerous times ( not relating to clan stuff tho ) . the only real way to move on . is to forgive . even if most people say its your fault . just wipe the slate clean as they say . Ice : i would really like if you moved on as well . thanks for reading this ...
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Matt I think you're a great guy and having you as a clanmate for all these years was a great time. But you're still sounding so agressive about that old subject, what's up man? I wanna see what other ducks want to say, not voting right now.
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Matt I think you're a great guy and having you as a clanmate for all these years was a great time. But you're still sounding so agressive about that old subject, what's up man? I wanna see what other ducks want to say, not voting right now.
This ^
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Jabire , okay , one last chance for matt , matt . can you please put all of these stuff aside ? i know its hard for you . i have been in your position numerous times ( not relating to clan stuff tho ) . the only real way to move on . is to forgive . even if most people say its your fault . just wipe the slate clean as they say . Ice : i would really like if you moved on as well . thanks for reading this ...
The applicant clearly has not moved on lol
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I moved on long ago, it's just that he keeps mentioning me in his application for some reason.
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I moved on long ago, it's just that he keeps mentioning me in his application for some reason.
so why is it so hard for you to privately message me and apologize for the other crap, but ignore me if i do.
But you're still sounding so agressive about that old subject, what's up man?
It might be old but it was never properly resolved, just forgotten. I'd like to properly resolve it.
Jabire , okay , one last chance for matt , matt . can you please put all of these stuff aside ? i know its hard for you . i have been in your position numerous times ( not relating to clan stuff tho ) . the only real way to move on . is to forgive . even if most people say its your fault . just wipe the slate clean as they say . Ice : i would really like if you moved on as well . thanks for reading this ...
I can't put it aside, because if it's not resolved, someone will bring it up again.
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I'd like to properly resolve it.
Any insight on how?
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No
I just hate arrogance, sorry.
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I'd like to properly resolve it.
Any insight on how?
yes a neutral respectful conversation publicly or privately.
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Matt that doesn't even make sense... Find a person with no opinion on what happened, you won't find one. All I'll say is, you're still bitter, you want to resolve it on your terms. You want to get back into the clan? Accept the majority view on the issue, retract your comments made both during the event and your application and then maybe people will move on. But, right now you just sound like a bitter cunt tbh with you
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Matt that doesn't even make sense... Find a person with no opinion on what happened, you won't find one. All I'll say is, you're still bitter, you want to resolve it on your terms. You want to get back into the clan? Accept the majority view on the issue, retract your comments made both during the event and your application and then maybe people will move on. But, right now you just sound like a bitter cunt tbh with you
It's makes complete sense. I don't want to resolve it on my terms, I want to fix my relationship with IceBreaker in neutral terms and you can do whatever the hell you want with your terms on me afterwards. I believe I already retracted my comments during the event and application.
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HOLD broo
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I'm writing this in green,so you know what that means
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It's sad that we are still mad at people over internet and trying to fix relationship "in neutral terms". Can't we all just move on. Why do we have to let our ego come into all this?. Lets start again.
Matt as we already told you, no one had already made mind to say no to your app. But they way you presented your app shows you are still mad over whatever happen and i guess you didn't know at that time that what ice did was supported by the clan later on. THIS WAS JUST TO CLEAR THINGS UP. LETS NOT BRING THE PAST INTO THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN.
Was it so hard to AVOID writing " illegally removed" "this is the better version of app" etc. ?Lets just all chillax, k? Kthnxbai
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I want to move on but then someone's gonna bring it up and use it against me.
Yea it was hard to think of what to write for that question
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Nope. Nobody will bring it up. Just one question.
What is more important to you? Getting back into the clan or restoring your position as leader of the clan? Pls dont reply "both".
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What is more important to you? Getting back into the clan or restoring your position as leader of the clan? Pls dont reply "both".
getting back into the clan
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I hope you really mean this. Coz from what i have observed you were only interested in "fixing or restoring your reputation and relations" and that too by demanding your stats and leader position back.
You were always helpful to me but idk since when your attitude changed. W/e , i am willing to give you another chance as you have said that the clan is more important to you. Keep you words . :)
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I hope you really mean this. Coz from what i have observed you were only interested in "fixing or restoring your reputation and relations" and that too by demanding your stats and leader position back.
You were always helpful to me but idk since when your attitude changed. W/e , i am willing to give you another chance as you have said that the clan is more important to you. Keep you words . :)
That is right yes, but I guess I'm a nobody so I'll accept being treated like one.
My attitude never changed but my opinions on people have.
I've been in this clan for most of the time that I've been on this server. Why wouldn't it be important. I'm not a person that runs or leaves a server over problems. If you want me to rage quit so bad, try a little harder.
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You are not a nobody. And it is exactly why we made about 5 topics over this issue and for discussing about you.
Do you see any "nobody" who is getting a second chance (third chance i should say) ? Do you see any "nobody" who threatened the clan n no. Of times and still got another chance again and again?
We all are trying to move on but your forcing us to discuss the thing which happened. Kindly stop showing yourself as a victim or show that whatever actions were taken against you were unfair. This has been discussed many times. NOBODY is trying to make you quit or something. I am sorry but nobody can help you if you are always gonna have a negative thinking.
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Do you see any "nobody" who is getting a second chance (third chance i should say) ? Do you see any "nobody" who threatened the clan n no. Of times and still got another chance again and again?
No, your right but that's not what I meant, but whatever it just doesn't matter.
We all are trying to move on but your forcing us to discuss the thing which happened. Kindly stop showing yourself as a victim or show that whatever actions were taken against you were unfair. This has been discussed many times. NOBODY is trying to make you quit or something. I am sorry but nobody can help you if you are always gonna have a negative thinking.
I've accepted the actions that were taken against me because the actions were explained very well on this appeal by someone else. I just personally feel that all the "No" votes are telling me to leave the server, that's all. I don't have negative thinking all the time but when there's no hope, I do have negative thinking.
I was discussing something a few days back about an ex member/applicant on the chat about his past since no one seemed to say anything about it and I got this comment as a result.
(http://i.imgur.com/8O7AzSY.jpg)
"We all trying to move on"
Doesn't sound quite like it here.
All I wanted to know was why some information wasn't mentioned out of curiousity but apparently it has to somehow relate to me. Why am I being provoked to argue?
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I think those who said no clearly mentioned the reason. You mentioned in your app that you were illegally kicked which is obviously something that you shouldn't write in your application. It just reflected that you were still mad over what happened, didn't want to move on and still wanted to argue over the actions taken against you.
The way you presented your app was rude. It looks like it was your ego that influenced the writing of this application.
About the mani's app, I knew him very well from the past. I always suspected him. But he applied again despite being kicked (he was going to be kicked anyway) and wasn't mad about how we were going to kick him or take action against him. He just wanted to get back into the clan and so he didn't went on and on telling about his past. I hope it's clear now.
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I think those who said no clearly mentioned the reason. You mentioned in your app that you were illegally kicked which is obviously something that you shouldn't write in your application. It just reflected that you were still mad over what happened, didn't want to move on and still wanted to argue over the actions taken against you.
The way you presented your app was rude. It looks like it was your ego that influenced the writing of this application.
I don't know why I have to keep repeating that I've accepted my actions and am ready to move on. I know what i wrote, it was explained to me that that is not how it happened, I accepted it. I only presented the ready why I left the clan rude, besides that's I kept everything normal.
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I'm somewhat willing to change my no vote, but I'm still really iffy. I'll see what to vote depending on Matt's and others' responses.
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I guess no one else is left who is willing to vote. I am staying with my vote as he's ready to move on and have a fresh start.
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I'm going to give him a Yes. Please don't dissapoint us mang, just chill.
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Ok Yes from me! Gl
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I'm somewhat willing to change my no vote, but I'm still really iffy. I'll see what to vote depending on Matt's and others' responses.
I like how you and ur brother both think differently
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I'm going to give him a Yes. Please don't dissapoint us mang, just chill.
me too. good luck matt :)
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5 no. ( jabir icey felipe captain and epps).
Waiting for khali , style and captain to finalise their vote to sum up. This is taking too much time. If anyone else wants to vote or say something he is most welcomed to do so.
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Due to other circumstances, my vote will remain no. Best of luck either way.
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Matt can vote on my behalf :p
A: You need apology from ice ? & were you really kicked Illegally ?
If Matt's Answer is Yes then ,will be NO from my side
If Matt has really moved on & says NO to the question A , Then a YES from me.
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Matt can vote on my behalf :p
A: You need apology from ice ? & were you really kicked Illegally ?
If Matt's Answer is Yes then ,will be NO from my side
If Matt has really moved on & says NO to the question A , Then a YES from me.
A. P1 No, I was not asking for an apology for getting kicked. I was rather asking for an apology for Icebreaker's real first actions against me (making a mockery meme with my picture and putting that as forum news).
A. P2 No, I was not really kicked illegally.
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blah blah blah, Yes x1000 He helped me realize my mistake when i first got denied n helped me fix my situation. :D xD btw i think y'all should really just put all that shit behind (as long as Matt promises to not fuck up again) . its not my choice or anything... just a my opinion... a suggestion if u wanna call it that :) O0 :)) C:-)
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Matt, what's up with you and manitupuma?
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Matt, what's up with you and manitupuma?
Kiddo wanted to get involved in my chatbox crap a few weeks back, so needed to teach him a lil lesson ingame
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Matt, what's up with you and manitupuma?
Kiddo wanted to get involved in my chatbox crap a few weeks back, so needed to teach him a lil lesson ingame
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Childish behavior like this is why I'm still saying no. Even if Manit wants to talk crap, there are ways to handle it like an adult.
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Matt, what's up with you and manitupuma?
Kiddo wanted to get involved in my chatbox crap a few weeks back, so needed to teach him a lil lesson ingame
Oh, I forgot to say no, lemme say it again :-D No
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Matt, what's up with you and manitupuma?
Kiddo wanted to get involved in my chatbox crap a few weeks back, so needed to teach him a lil lesson ingame
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Childish behavior like this is why I'm still saying no. Even if Manit wants to talk crap, there are ways to handle it like an adult.
Yea there is but some people haven't improved their English so I don't see any other for them to understand my message. Oh and I did only kill him once.
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You haven't won me over and fail to do so when you try to bully others, even if it's a one off situation. Whatever happens, my vote is a solid no through the rest of this application.
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You haven't won me over and fail to do so when you try to bully others, even if it's a one off situation.
Yet other people in this clan are allowed to do that other people? Nice
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I can't speak for others if I'm not voting on their application.
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I can't speak for others if I'm not voting on their application.
I was talking about people currently in the clan.
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I can't speak for others if I'm not voting on their application.
I was talking about people currently in the clan.
List them. It was going so well but you messed it up again. Why so much hate towards manitupuma, or any other player ?
About killing someone- it is completely fair and justified if you are doing it for fun so as to keep up the gm of the server. But it was your jealousy(i guess?) that triggered your actions. Even if mani was acting like a bitch or maybe annoying you it doesn't mean you would have to kill him and talk rubbish. ( there is no clear picture presented about what actually happened )
Was , mani getting accepted and you being on hold was the reason? Or his ' bad english' was the reason lol.
I am sorry but there shouldn't be any kind of hatred/jealosy between members of a clan. How can you apply in a clan ( or was part of it ..wanting to start again) and then bully or talk shit to its members?
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List them. It was going so well but you messed it up again. Why so much hate towards manitupuma, or any other player ?
About killing someone- it is completely fair and justified if you are doing it for fun so as to keep up the gm of the server. But it was your jealousy(i guess?) that triggered your actions. Even if mani was acting like a bitch or maybe annoying you it doesn't mean you would have to kill him and talk rubbish. ( there is no clear picture presented about what actually happened )
Was , mani getting accepted and you being on hold was the reason? Or his ' bad english' was the reason lol.
I am sorry but there shouldn't be any kind of hatred/jealosy between members of a clan. How can you apply in a clan ( or was part of it ..wanting to start again) and then bully or talk shit to its members?
I dont need to list anyone but ill list Icebreaker because he was acting like a bully when he made that meme with my picture.
I've never had issues with manitpuma until he decided to get involved in my business over here. I don't hate him though. It's hard for him to speak with me so it would be a completely unfair advantage to continue arguing with him when he can't defend himself in English
I was doing it for fun though, only did it once and told him to stay out of my business and thats it. I didn't feel like I needed to kill him again for him to get the message.
I have the right to kill him though, I'm not in this clan at the moment and he recently became a member again so he has no power to voice his opinion until hes a duck. There have been plenty of applicants that have applied to this clan and they were killing members until the got accepted.
He wasn't doing anything, I just unexpectedly decided to kill him for fun. I was civilian and he was president, of course I was doing it along with the gm, plenty of civilians do that to people they are cool with. Like the topic on the PTP forums, I have the right to kill anyone fairly without a whole clan getting involved.
Why don't you ask COBRA from PPLV, he's a witness of the whole situation. I was with him a helicopter and asked him to fly me up to the tower in Los Santos to manitupuma.
What is there to be jealous of him lol. Him being accepted and his bad english were not reasons as that would be too childish and I'm think I'm way above that. Else i'd be doing it to mechanic.
I do like how you want to twist this story without getting the full scoop. Because apparently what manitupuma wrote on the private boards is the true and only real version of what happened. I'm not saying I'm always a 100 percent right which is why I gave u a key witness to the whole thing.
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Because apparently what manitupuma wrote on the private boards is the true and only real version of what happened.
Funny. He actually said in the Duck board that we should give you a chance and he votes Yes even though he's a new member.
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This is what we call " moving on".
I will stay with my vote. But i highly doubt if it would make a difference when there are already so many NOs.
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Funny. He actually said in the Duck board that we should give you a chance and he votes Yes even though he's a new member.
Well then I will have a normal conversation with him using translator and see what's up. I will post logs of that and he can confirm we had this conversation to prove that we've moved on.
This is what we call " moving on".
I think I've moved on, I think 1 kill expressed enough because he seems to be quiet now.
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1 kill expressed enough because he seems to be quiet now.
Look at your wording, are you mentally insane or something? Do you have superiority complex?
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Look at your wording, are you mentally insane or something? Do you have superiority complex?
no? All people are created equally. I'm not any better or worse then anyone
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Look at your wording, are you mentally insane or something? Do you have superiority complex?
no? All people are created equally. I'm not any better or worse then anyone
Yes you say all that and it all sounds good and stuff and then you say something again or do something that contradicts your previous statement. We confront you again and you change your statement again with the goal of satisfying us... and it goes on and on. Don't you see a pattern?
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Yes you say all that and it all sounds good and stuff and then you say something again or do something that contradicts your previous statement. We confront you again and you change your statement again with the goal of satisfying us... and it goes on and on. Don't you see a pattern?
Well what else can I say then huh?
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Over a day has gone without a reply. I ask people who are on hold to get their votes in.
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Final vote, No.
Goodluck :)
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kocham ciebie
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Being a Rubber Duck, I vote YES to give Matt a chance however I know he has issues to work on first.
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Too many NO's on your side Matt. I am denying this application and locking it up.
Re-apply after sorting out issues with other members/leaders.